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THE DIVISION GROUP
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FIRST OF ALL, BEN, IT IS GREAT HAVING YOU HERE ON BTS RADIO SHOW , ESPECIALLY ON OUR WEB SECTION WITH INTERVIEWS AND THANKS FOR ALL GOOD MUSIC THAT YOU MAKE THROUGH ALL THESE YEARS.
Thanks for supporting what we do for so long.
MY FIRST CONTACT WITH SUPERGRUB WAS WITH YOUR FIRST ALBUM COMMUNICATOR THAT WAS RELEASED IN 1997 FOR 215 RECORDS, I THINK. HOW DID ALL STARTED AND WHAT WERE THE FIRST IMPRESSIONS FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAD THE CHANCE TO HEAR IT?
I was about 18 or 19 and i had been writing and recording songs for a while and I just wanted to get them out. 215 records was a label run by some friends in Philly and they were totally into the music so they put out communicator. It was fun. A lot of people were really supportive and I think the music reached alot of kids who were open minded and into music for music instead of all the silly scene politics at the time.
YOUR MUSICAL INFLUENCES ON THAT ALBUM, BY MY OPINION, WERE THE POLICE, BAD BRAINS, AND SOME OLD PUNK HARDCORE BANDS. AM I RIGHT?
Yeah, pretty much. I would say the Bad Brains, Into Another, Men At Work, Burn, Prince, Inside Out and U2.
AFTER THAT COMES CHALLENGER, RELEASED FOR GHETTO CRUSH INDUSTRIES. ALBUM THATÍS FILLED WITH VARIOUS TYPE OF SONGS FROM PURE ROCK, POP THROUGH REGGAE, DUB MIXTURE. BUT THERE WERE NO SONG TITLES. THAT ALBUM REALLY SETS UP A STANDARD SOUND OF SUPERGRUB THAT EVERYONE RECOGNIZES. TELL ME SOMETHING ABOUT MAKING OF THAT ALBUM AND RELEASING IT FOR YOUR OWN LABEL?
That album was one of the most personally rewarding things i've ever done. I had recently been turned on to shudder to think's pony express record and that changed my whole concept of self expression through music. I was also getting into alot of Ahmad Jamal and Miles Davis. It was a great time of discovery. We just went into the studio and made a record without any concern to what people expected to hear. At that time, 215 records was going through some changes so my brother and i pressed it up and Ghetto Crush Industries was born.
THE WISH OF EVERY MUSICIAN IS TO OWN THEIR OWN LABEL AND CONTROL EVERYTHING THAT HE DOES. ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH YOUR WORK UNTIL NOW AND IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY RELEASES OF SOME OTHER BANDS THAT YOU THINK THEY ARE WORTHY TO BE PRESENTED BY YOUR LABEL?
I guess I'm satisfied. I mean, what's done is done right? I look back and feel good about the music we've made and the people it's reached. We're definitely doing more things through Ghetto Crush Industries. I've got a new record I'm putting out this summer. Ashley, who plays drums for The Division Group has a solo ep which I co-produced with him. I think that's one of the best recordings I've engineered. The whole thing is gonna be our own community. It's good to have a place where you can try things and not have to answer to anyone if they fail.
TOURING WITH SUPERGRUB WAS A GREAT THING, FOR SURE. WERE THERE A CHANCE FOR YOU TO PLAY SOMEWHERE BESIDES UNITED STATES?
We never really got out of the Northeast U.S. we ended up playing with alot of hardcore bands and that didn't get us very far. And we weren't on the radar of the major label rock world so we never really got anywhere.
AND THAT WAS IT WITH SUPERGRUB. IT MUST BE HARD TO FINISH WITH SOMETHING THAT YOU DEDICATED THE MOST OF YOUR LIFE! WHY DID YOU MAKE THAT BIG STEP?
After all that time I realized there wasn't anything to show for all the work. It was easy to say "time to move on" and let that rest in the past.
NOW IT'S THE DIVISION GROUP! I GOT THE EP, AND REALLY, WHAT I EXPECTED, IT WAS THERE! GREAT SONGS, GOOD SOUND AND EVERYTHING THAT MAKES A GOOD RECORD. VERY PERSONAL LYRICS, AND MUSIC THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE BAND WAS THERE FOREVER, JUST NEEDED TO PICK UP THE PIECES. TELL ME SOMETHING ABOUT PUTTING THIS LINE-UP TOGETHER AND WHO WORKS ON LYRICS AND MUSIC?
We pretty much took Supergrub, which was Chris Shar and me, added Ashley Mendel on drums and jumped in the studio. I wrote the songs and we played them together a few times before we hit record and the next thing you know we had new music to share.
I READ SOMEWHERE THAT YOU PLAY VARIOUS INSTRUMENTS. ON CHALLENGER YOU PLAYED DRUMS BESIDE GUITAR! IS THERE SOME OTHER INSTRUMENT THAT YOU PLAY AND WHAT TYPE OF MUSIC YOU LISTEN WHEN YOU'RE CHILLIN AT HOME?
I play guitar, drums and bass. That's all really. Lately i've been listening to this band "Aleda" from New York. It's better than anything i've heard in a long time. check out http://www.aleda.net
YOU ALSO PLAY GUITAR WITH THE ROOTS! PHRENOLOGY, GREAT ALBUM! BUT IT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM STUFF THAT YOUÍRE DOING! WHEN THAT COOPERATION STARTED AND HOW DOES IT FEEL TO DO BIG CONCERTS WITH LOT OF PEOPLE IN FRONT OF YOU? IT'S A CHANCE TO DO THINGS AND GO PLACES THAT YOU CAN ONLY DREAM OFF, RIGHT?
The Roots are the best. Those guys taught me alot. We had so much fun playing big shows. My life has been incredible and being a part of that was more than i can explain. I've actually joined Incubus playing bass since then so it's only gotten crazier and bigger.
NOW ONE DIRECT QUESTION! CAN MAKE A LIVING FROM JUST PLAYING IN A BAND?
Not really, unless the band is run like a company. It's gotta be efficient and serious and balanced with great music. Put all that together and you've got a shot.
IS THERE ANY CHANCE TO SEE YOU GUYS PLAY HERE IN EUROPE? THAT WOULD BE GREAT!
I wouldn't expect any Division Group shows any time soon but who knows?
WHAT CAN WE EXPECT NEW FROM THE DIVISION GROUP AND YOUR WORK WITH THE ROOTS?
Hopefully we'll make a new Division Group e.p. this year. The last one got great feedback and people are listening. The Roots have a new record on deck called "The Tipping point". I haven't heard it but I'd bet on it being great. We just released a new Incubus album called "A Crow left of the murder" which I played bass on. I'm really proud of that and it was a good time to make. I've got my solo record almost done and I think that's about it.
HOPE YOU LIKED THIS INTERVIEW! IS THERE ANY LAST MESSAGE FROM YOU TO ALL THE LISTENERS AND READERS OF BTS RADIO SHOW?
Stay healthy and please forgive us americans for our shitty president.

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